2014 Retirements & 2015 Player Movement Discussions

What you say Lee may well occur, salary cap reduction included.

However, I don't see a fix in any of this.

The sanfl / afl relationship seems to be refining each year. Maybe not perfectly, but I see the sanfl / ammos & country relationship a more immediate threat. 

To me a reduction in salary cap would just expose sanfl clubs to more pressure. 

Something has to give somewhere eventually.

Either the sanfl standard drops (and with it relevance and interest and the afl breeding ground suffers too) or some coordination of the cap with ammos / country leagues occurs to stabilise player exodus and the ability to recruit.

Without looking at the overall model across all tiers, it is just seems like bandaid upon bandaid.

Firstly I think we have to face the reality that we are, right now, a feeder competition for the AFL. But that shouldn't mean that we can't also be a strong, viable, attractive and well supported competition in our own right. As Lee said, nothing stays the same and the job for administrators, at all levels, is to restructure, firstly our own individual clubs, then the competition as a whole, in ways that achieve that aim. I do think that the Crows reserves model (And hopefully Port will pick it up this year) gives us some pointers to the way we might restructure the other 8 clubs. At A grade level, a squad of contracted players, paid at something like present levels. Backed up with a group of call-up players from the country and amateur leagues, who receive a fixed per game payment. I was discussing this whole issue recently with the secretary of the River Murray League, an old friend, and I know that country leagues are looking at a range of ideas to save clubs from their own folly, in paying ridiculous sums to a handful of "marquee" players. None of this will be easy and the eventual solutions may be a long way from my suggestions. But I have confidence in the good judgement of the people who's job it is to deal with these issues.

The Big Phil wrote:

eartotheground wrote:Is one SANFL recruit already making noises about leaving their new club?

Have they joined a band, instead?

So which club are you referring to?

Exciting young defender from the Top End on his way to the SANFL by the looks of it...

I hope it happens this time, BP.

The SANFL could do with exciting young defenders.

Lee wrote:I hope it happens this time, BP.

Looks like it has happened, Lee, and no doubt you'd be happy about it...

http://westadelaidefc.com.au/wafc/more-signings-at-the-bloods/

Sounds like a couple of good pick ups for the Bloods...

Big Phil wrote:

The Big Phil wrote:

eartotheground wrote:Is one SANFL recruit already making noises about leaving their new club?

Have they joined a band, instead?

So which club are you referring to?

Any more word on this noisy player?

With most clubs now back at training, has he fronted?

rather than go through the whole thread to find anything, 'll ask this question that was text to me from Melbourne, which asked me if i've heard whether wwt have recruited an 18 year old from Victoria by the name Ben Vaccare (whether that is how the name is spelt or not i don't know )

bayman wrote:rather than go through the whole thread to find anything, 'll ask this question that was text to me from Melbourne, which asked me if i've heard whether wwt have recruited an 18 year old from Victoria by the name Ben Vaccare (whether that is how the name is spelt or not i don't know )

i've had an update, it's Ben Cavarra & apparently Norwood & Central are talking to him too & he won a Morrish Medal (no idea, what competition that is)

He is a very good player, but I thought he was staying with Frankston. At this stage of the year, I'd find it hard to believe any club would have enough Salary Cap room left.

Unless anythings changed Norwood wouldn't be into him for 2015 .. Will confirm and return.

hadnt heard anything bayman

thanks guys, as i said i got a text from Melbourne, i'll ask & find tomorrow where he got this from

bayman wrote:thanks guys, as i said i got a text from Melbourne, i'll ask & find tomorrow where he got this from

ive asked on the Eagles forum see if anyone knows

i sent a text saying ''no one knows anything what do you know ?'' the reply was ''i'm led to believe the eagles have signed him subject to him not being homesick''

The Eagles haven't lost much and have signed 4 or 5 delisted AFL players (some returning).

They'd be nudging the cap already?

Lee wrote:The Eagles haven't lost much and have signed 4 or 5 delisted AFL players (some returning).

They'd be nudging the cap already?

nah, most of their players play for the love of the jumper !!!!

bayman wrote:

Lee wrote:The Eagles haven't lost much and have signed 4 or 5 delisted AFL players (some returning).

They'd be nudging the cap already?

nah, most of their players play for the love of the jumper !!!!

Well i was told several years back by a person high up in the eagles, like centrals in their hey day they offer recruits the chance to play finals/ grand finals football over money ! believe me or not doesnt matter
Plus dont believe what you read on another footy site the recruits are all accepted no matter who they are or where they come from !!
This is not aimed at you bayman
Sorry but some of the jealousy shown by other fans at the eagles is over the top !

I think Bayman's statement (sarcastically) applies to all teams, micky.

Lee wrote:I think Bayman's statement (sarcastically) applies to all teams, micky.

Wasnt talking about here Lee some of the stuff said on another footy site .
the only thing they dont write is "you can only beat us cause your two teams "


As i wrote wasnt referring to Bayman

No worries, mate.

Lee wrote:No worries, mate.

I wont upset westies Lee too many know where i live


play on

just to clarify, i was only trying to get a laugh with that statement, nothing more, nothing less & would have made the same comment under the same context with any team, mine included

All clubs get questioned about their cap. Some because they have previous "form" in terms of breaching, others because they bring a few name players in at the same time. I've heard people question Sturt's this season (despite the fact they've been living on the smell of an oily rag for a decade or so) and many people questioned the Bays last year, even though they propped up the ladder. Those questions lose there effect after a while because no club is spared, particularly if they're winning.

Without wishing to sound like I am "defending", I have heard from people in or close to management that Sturt have been well under the cap in recent seasons as a result of the financial situation. The retirements of a number of the senior players would have also helped for this season.

It still rankles me that we still have to talk about a cap when 2 clubs do not. Just doesn't sit right.