Glenelg

We all know their future is not bright. We also know today they have finally made it public.

I am absolutey staggered that a lot of so called Glenelg supporters are not getting behind their club. It seems there is a wave of supporters willing to only blame the introduction of the AFL teams. Take your blinkers off and look beyond that. This debt has accrued over years. I would not like to see any of the 8 SANFL clubs fold but it's time for this clubs supporters to stand up. They sling off quick and jump off quick. That's the problem.
They need a complete restructure and a board with football and commercial mindset.
Maybe stop blaming and get behind your club. Who cares if the AFL reserves are in when the club is close to folding.

I found it curious that in the same article it was mooted that the club might not be able to continue next year, and that they had just signed Matthew Lokan for a further two years.

I think you will find some of those supporters were very strong in venting their displeasure at a club meeting about voting "yes"to having the AFL teams in the comp.

I know a few who vowed never to return.

I think the club listened to the SANFL give them promises that all will be fixed with the AFL teams coming into the comp. (like many SANFL clubs)
Sadly, this is what it has come too. No pot of money at the end of the rainbow - just broken promises.

Yep, many Glenelg fans were the most vocal anti-AFL reserves and, somehow, found it easy to walk away from their club ( I've found it very difficult to walk away from the Magpies despite the new structure ) and now their club is neck deep in droppings they need to swallow their pride and cough up or watch the GFC become a dodo bird.

You reap what you sow and Chiggy is just realising that now....

Yes but Glenelgs debt has nothing to with the AFL reserves surely.

Not all of it no, but it hasn't helped as many fans boycott the club and the league.

So they don't truly support Glenelg. The posters on the forums make a minute minority of SANFL followers. An even more minute few complain about anything SANFL. Personally I am against the AFL reserves but I don't blame that for their loss. The lighting was an expense which was a bad decision and they are not good enough so people do not go.
There are too many Glenelg supporters that just bag their club. Glenelg is imperative for the SANFL comp and I just shake my head at some of these minute supporters.
So I would start at the supporters that don't support their club yet are happy to post on our SANFL comp.

Personally i think the SANFL is doomed.
The decision to allow the afl reserves sides into the league has been an unmitigated disaster, it has has led to dwindling attendances and revenue when the opposite was promised.
If you think Glenelg are the only club in trouble I think you are sadly mistaken ! there are currently several clubs running purely on the benefit of a few very wealthy benefactors/ supporters.
The sanfl has poured over 20 mill into the financial basket case which was the Port Adelaide football club- in fact they borrowed money to throw into that bottomless pit.! Do you think that the SANFL is going to bail any of its shareholder clubs out?? - No way! - they seriously havent got the coin. They dont give a rats...since Whicker left the scene the place has gone to rack and ruin, and well history tells us that anything that has Olsens fingerprints on it quickly turns to ****.
The television deal which historically has given the league an excellent profile is a disaster and its coverage is heavily biased in the AFL teams favour.
The decision to drip feed the sanfl clubs with revenue from the sale of Footy Park is laughable. its seriously backended - ie the clubs will receive more in a few years..great--only trouble is the way things are at present there wont be too many clubs around in 5 years time. the mooted current annual dividend wont even pay the interest in most clubs debt.
The SANFL commission was introduced at the same time as the AFL clubs came on the scene. The principal role of this mob was to govern and run the AFL licenses which at the time were owned by the SANFL. Newsflash!- the SANFL licenses were "sold/given" to the Crows and Port 2 years ago. Its odd to me that the SANFL commission hasnt been disbanded and made redundant- instead it now seems the Commission is running the show- not the league delegates who ran the league pre AFL.

rant over.

as i understand it, to get the lights Glenelg needed council approval, the council voted yes & approved it, then 3 council members as private citizens lodge injunctions for the court to hear it (not sure of the proper terminology) this court case cost astronomical & was unforseen before it happened, obviously other appointments (off field) weren't good choices either, everyone makes mistakes & we as a club has made these mistakes, you learn from mistakes & get better, this may make us a better club (business wise) in the long run, as for supporters not supporting for the AFL reason is true & it is true at all real clubs, i don't think this is the main reason for the loss of supporters, i think the main reason & i've seen this way too often is our supporters stay away when the team is near the bottom & isn't winning many matches (happens at all clubs).......as for the dodo bird quip, yep you are right & you would know as your magpies' are sadly dodo birds as well..................i asked on snouts whether i could take money out of super to help the cause & the short answer from a banking person was NO, so i'll donate $500.00 in the next week or so & continue donating whatever i can afford every week or two, obviously school fees come first but after that i'll put in something on a consistent basis

blueandwhite wrote:Personally i think the SANFL is doomed.


No way! - they seriously havent got the coin. They dont give a rats...since Whicker left the scene the place has gone to rack and ruin, and well history tells us that anything that has Olsens fingerprints on it quickly turns to ****.

DOOMED or will it change to A.F.L.S.A. & they run the show & in time make it even more of a feeder comp ?


Olsen historically sells business' remember the water, gas, electricity & tab just to name some that was sold when he was premier ? at least when he was on North Terrace he couldn't damage football but now he can & is along with his cronies all or at least some of them waiting for cushy jobs paid for by the custodians of our great game

Reading other forums and the attitude of some is astounding .Posters wanting Glenelg gone as they agreed to the AFL reserves inclusion is just hiding behind something. That says more about the posters I reckon. It's all just so negative. Lot of hypotheticals too and many assumptions.If we want the competition to stay strong then get behind it and appreciate it . It's a good competition. Yes things can change for the better . If you are so passionate about your club and the competition then get behind it . It is quite simple. If you wish to continue to bag it then I hope you don't jump back on when your club is going better.

Bayman , any updates on the position ? I heard on TV they said they raised $50 grand but that is nothing and actually extremely poor. Spoke to a Glenelg fan Friday and she has given them up . Called them a joke , I wonder how many feel that way ? It is vital the club survives.

Any more updates on Glenelg? Would have thought the west lakes money would help alot?

I read the article linked below in the advertiser that refects the ongoing finacial issues with the glenelg football club and the need for the local council to forgo a large part of the money that they loaned to the club.

Phone calls today to a few people i know indicated that council and councillors were reportedly getting some heat not to forgo the monies owed.

I support west adelaide but more importantly i support the sanfl of which glenelg is a historic and vital part off. Glenelg must be retained omo!

It was pleasing to read quote 'It was also revealed in the council’s annual report that the council loaned the Tigers $120,000 in December for marketing of the Glenelg Club at Glenelg Oval." End quote but then i noted that reportedly it owes $1.2 million to ANZ for its bistro.

I find this of great concern but do admit to having very limited knowledge in reference to high dollar finiance matter .

While obviously not good is this as bad as seems on face value or is this matter now critical to the clubs survival -- how long can a business organisation run at a loss before the direcrors are legally required to start bankruptcy procedure.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger/west-beaches/holdfast-bay-council-doubts-glenelg-football-club-will-pay-back-debt-as-it-seeks-to-have-loan-written-off/news-story/d9678690cca40aea5c3c06ccce108dec

This SANFL football club is targeting to raise a Steve Austin $6,000,000 amount
A major leeway effort will be needed


www.buildthefort.com.au
At the time of this link
$4,306,000 has been raised

Could Glenelg raise money doing similarly ?

Glenelg has raised $250,000
$100,00 from fundraising
The SANFL has chipped in with some loot as well

Still a way of the $3.4 million reported debt , but the 250,000 is a start

How can they afford to run a Women's team aswell with this amount of debt??

Millsie, there is some cost offset to help, through grants, but I'd expect Glenelg to cover the extra cost through sponsorship.

On top of that, they would be hoping for increased revenue through more people coming through the club, probably.

Scrappy wrote:Glenelg has raised $250,000
$100,00 from fundraising
The SANFL has chipped in with some loot as well

Still a way of the $3.4 million reported debt , but the 250,000 is a start

Are you saying the SANFL has given $150, 000 ? I will keep saying the it's a poor reflection their supporters that only $100,000 has been raised . I'm not talking about all but I have no doubt the club would disappointed with their supporter base and the promotion of the debt campaign.

" The club launched  Save The Tigers debt demolition campaign , which has raised nearly $250,000, that includes a contribution fro the SANFL and another $100k from the fundraising."

By
Chris Mcdermott

So Glenelg $100,000
The rest being from the SANFL or other or both

Any updates with their situation ? The silence by the club is concerning and deathly. I would have thought they would get very proactive ?

waddayamean wrote:Any updates with their situation ? The silence by the club is concerning and deathly. I would have thought they would get very proactive ?

Not a lot. They had a meeting with the council who is the main creditor but the results aren't being disclosed by either party beyond a vague 'continuing to support' message.

Looking for the easy option out ?

I am amazed by the silence on this . They seem to be doing nothing . I know they would be but the way this is being handled seems strange. Would have to be changes at board level surely .