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Post by Lee Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:24 pm

Possible side for Round 1

Hitchcock. Harvey. Colquhoun

Impey. Butcher. Young

Amon. Mitchell. Newton

Heath. Clurey. Hombsch

Byrne-Jones. Stevenson. Shaw


Redden. Stewart. White


Renouf, AhChee, Russell, Flynn



If all available, Raikiwasa, Summerton, etc don't get a game?
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Post by Redlegsrock Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:51 pm

Pretty sure white will be in afl side instead of gray
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Post by bayman Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:34 pm

Redlegsrock wrote:Pretty sure white will be in afl side instead of gray
is there any need to be picky ? obviously it is put up to discuss not pick the eyes out of it ffs Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes 
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Post by mark beswick Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:26 pm

21 Debutantes no matter who plays for the new club RD1
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Post by FOOTYfollower Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:34 am

Redlegsrock wrote:Pretty sure white will be in afl side instead of gray
Depends which Gray you mean - he wont be in before Robbie Gray, but then agsin they are fairly different types of players who play different roles.

Robbie Gray if fit is a definite first 18 starter, perhaps on a forward flank or pocket. Very handy opportunist.

White is more of the pacy wingman type.


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Post by FOOTYfollower Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:51 am


Id expect something like this:

FF Hitchcock, Harvey, Young

HF S Gray, Shaw, Stewart

C Colquhoun, Newton, Amon

HB Clurey, Hombsch, Impey

FB Byrne-Jones, Raikiwasa, Heath

RUCK
Redden
Stevenson
Mitchell

Int: Russell, Renouf, AhChee,
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Post by Booney Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:03 am

wolves wrote:21 Debutantes no matter who plays for the new club RD1
lol! 
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Post by Lee Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:58 am

FOOTYfollower wrote:
Id expect something like this:

FF Hitchcock, Harvey, Young

HF S Gray, Shaw, Stewart

C   Colquhoun, Newton, Amon

HB Clurey, Hombsch, Impey

FB Byrne-Jones, Raikiwasa, Heath

RUCK
Redden
Stevenson
Mitchell

Int: Russell, Renouf, AhChee,
Yes. When I posted the first team and looked at my notes, I saw I had Gray written down and thought 'no way he won't be in the 1's".

Forgot it was Sam Gray Embarassed 
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Post by Lee Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:00 am

FF, you have Raikiwasa playing, but I'd presume he only plays if there's a spot available after all listed players are selected first.

Therefore, Flynn would have to play??
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Post by Booney Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:13 am

The AFL listed players are not assured a league game, or do you know something more?
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Post by FOOTYfollower Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:22 am

Thats what I would have thought too Booney.

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Post by Lee Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:13 am

I don't know the answer, but I have always presumed no-one except the 'marqee' player could play until all listed players were selected.

Surely that was the whole point of this exercise, to give their listed players a suitable competition.

Sorry, Boony, but I don't trust Port ever keeping to the spirit of any agreement they enter into and I'm just waiting to see what swifty they pull to give Summerton and Raikiwasa a game.
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Post by Booney Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:43 pm

Well, R&B, I would have thought the PAFC wanted to maintain the Port Magpies reserves structure was due to the fact, in part, that not all AFL listed players are ready for SANFL league level upon being drafted.

This then would mean players like Summerton, Raikiwasa and co. would continue to play league football. This would mean players are not gifted league games, as the Adelaide side will have to do. The proposed structure the PAFC were denied was one that upheld the integrity of the comp more than the current model.

From what I know, AFL listed players are not automatic SANFL league selections.
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Post by Lee Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:09 pm

Is there a Magpies Reserves team next season?

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Post by Big Phil Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:19 pm

redandblack wrote:Is there a Magpies Reserves team next season?

Yes - The 'Academy' Squad, which will be coached by Jacob Surjan...

As far as I was aware, they are only entitled to this for season 2014 aftewr which it will be taken from them...
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Post by Lee Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:28 pm

I'd also like to know thw rules about playing AFL players in that team while non-AFL players are selected first.

That surely is against the whole spirit of the agreement.

The Crows don't have that option.

Give Port an inch..........
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Post by lachlan Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:33 pm

I'm with R&B on this surely AFL Players must play before any Port magpie players
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Post by Booney Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:41 pm

So now you want AFL players gifted a league game?

R&B, Port have reserves and U18's in the SANFL next year. The U18's will be gone in 2015 from the SANFL, the reserves / academy team may play in amateur ranks or, what I think will happen is the SANFL clubs realise the whole "top up player" system for Adelaide is a debacle and the whole system is revisited.

If they'd only taken the time to do it right the first time....
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Post by Lee Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:51 pm

"Gifted a league game'?

mate, the whole set-up was put in place to give AFL players a 'proper' competition to play in.

Now you're claiming the SANFL Reserves is a proper comp.

The idea was for all listed players to play in the same team.
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Post by Booney Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:56 pm

It's not so much a "proper" comp but, in the main, all players playing under the same system. Playing structures etc.

Port should have given Adelaide half of our zones to recruit reserves/top up players from and both sides had U18's, reserves and league in the SANFL.

How f**** easy was that?
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Post by Lee Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:58 pm

You'll rightly have no zones in 12 months. Very Happy Wink 
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Post by Booney Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:02 pm

In some ways, it will be an unlimited zone structure.

So, we will be able to draft/recruit a kid from Ireland to play with the Magpies if we want. Or one of the best 18 year olds playing TAC Cup. Or an AFL premiership ruckman who has a sore knee.

Who knows, someone might take our zones one day and then give it back to us. No questions asked.
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Post by Booney Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:10 pm

Don't blame me though, your club voted to have it that way.
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:34 pm

Booney wrote:Well, R&B, I would have thought the PAFC wanted to maintain the Port Magpies reserves structure was due to the fact, in part, that not all AFL listed players are ready for SANFL league level upon being drafted.

This then would mean players like Summerton, Raikiwasa and co. would continue to play league football. This would mean players are not gifted league games, as the Adelaide side will have to do. The proposed structure the PAFC were denied was one that upheld the integrity of the comp more than the current model.

From what I know, AFL listed players are not automatic SANFL league selections.
Well I think Hinkley can't have it both ways.
Either he wants his draftees and fringe afl players to play in the one sanfl league team or he doesn't.

I agree they are not all ready to play sanfl league upon drafting, but in this vexed model now thrust upon us, Port just can't have its cake and eat it too.

After 2014 season, they will just have to be satisfied with gifting players games.
And it disappoints me that this is what we have to suck up now - a competition with less integrity all round.

And I cannot agree that Port's preferred model was better than this one as far as the 'competition integrity' line is pushed.
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Post by Booney Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:42 pm

Both AFL clubs expressed the desire to have players playing under the one system, one structure, one banner.

The PAFC felt to best maintain the links with the local community as well as the wider community in regional zones, was to keep recruting zones etc.

In fact, a year on and people haven't worked out whats going on.....they obviously haven't been paying attention.
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