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Post by testy on Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:23 pm

The first Mancad in 22 years occurred overnight in a one day game between Sri Lanka and England.

The Sri Lancan bowler had warned the batsman the previous ball about stepping out of his crease but when he stepped out again he stopped as he was about to release the ball and took the bails off--Although it is in the rules of cricket it is seen as not being in the spirit of the game, a bit like the underarm.
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Post by Lee on Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:55 pm

He had given him two warnings.

Jokes, apropos of nothing: (for scrappy)

Umpire: "don't you want guard?"

Batsman: "No, I've played here before"









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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:59 pm

If he has been warned, he is fair game.
If it was the previous ball then he (was it Cook?) is too stupid for words.
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Post by Scrappy on Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:23 am

I was at Adelaide Oval the day Ian Redpath was  mankaded by that ferocious West Indian fast bowler fast bowler CcCcCcharlie Griffith in 1968
I didnt see CcCccCcCcCcharlie do the deed , just recall a crowd reaction.

Charlie gave Redders no warning
I have no problem with Charlies actions, backing up , out of your crease , is blatant cheating as far as I am concerned
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Post by Lee on Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:36 am

I've chaged my mind on this over the years.

Until recent times, I thought it was against the spirit of the game and I think I was right.

That was in the days when backing up out of your crease was more a mistake than trying to gain much of an advantage.

Now, however, with run outs decided by millimetres and athletic players trying to gain every advantage, I haven't as much difficulty with it, as long as a warning has been given.

If it was me bowling, the first time I'd warn the batsman, the second I'd stop and put the ball next to the bails so that the crowd could also see the warning, the third time, 'on yer bike, mate'.
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:52 am

More generous than me R&B.
1 warning only for me.
In ODI and T20 any little advantage is taken, so more cut throat in those contests.

But still same for me in Tests - 1 warning only.
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Post by UncleHuey on Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:13 pm

Given that he had 2 previous warnings and was over a metre down the pitch when he was Mankaded then he has no-one to blame but himself. Sri Lanka lost the previous game and the Poms got a lot of two's in the final overs, partly as batsmen were launching themseves down the pitch as the bowler bowled.

There was some serious sooking in the UK press about this. Apparantly claiming catches you know missed the bat or bounced (Prior) or hitting the ball to first slip and not walking (Broad) is OK but running someone out who is out of their crease is "unsporting". IMO if you have been warned and you get run out because you chose to be out of the crease when the ball is in play then tough bikkies.
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Post by Booney on Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:46 pm

I once saw Scrappy turning for the second before the bowler delivered the ball.

Bit rich for him to call backing up "cheating"...!!!!  Laughing Laughing 

Actually, not true, Scrappy never ran two in his life.....
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Post by Booney on Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:47 pm

As for the mankad, it it cricket, or is it just not cricket?

For mine, it's just not cricket and outside the spirit of the game. That's my opinion.

Having said that, play fair from the non-strikers position and nothing more needs to happen.
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Post by Scrappy on Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:52 pm

Booney wrote:I once saw Scrappy turning for the second before the bowler delivered the ball.

Bit rich for him to call backing up "cheating"...!!!!  Laughing Laughing 

Actually, not true, Scrappy never ran two in his life.....

6 balls I bowled atchya
The first 5 were dots
The last an inside edge , and you took a single
Those 22 yards you ran for THAT single is folklore for you

I wish I mankaded you though, would give me something further to gloat about

Never saw Mankadding , or warnings in all my years of playing
I guess players I competed against of the ilk of Booney, Bayman and Redandblack , played cricket for enjoyment not lamb stations

But I'm like R+B there seems to be a lot of cribbing , and therefore creating what I think was an unfair advantage
If I was playing for cattle stations like the Internationals are, with my liveleyhood on the line , I would be inclined to Mankad
I would not stop prop swish the bails off and then warn
I would tell the batters verbally my intentions , besides, bails off and warning = another walk back to the bowling mark !
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