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Post by Gingernuts on Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:48 pm

Ground looking spectacular.
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Post by brodlach on Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:58 pm

If you haven't been for a look around GN, its worth it. Go when a Shield game is on and you can look mthrough everything. Its incredible.

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Post by Gingernuts on Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:21 pm

I'm holding off until Adelaide's first home game to build the excitement! Very Happy 

Noticed some negative press around about the redevelopment, but personally I think they've balanced it well. Much better than some of our eastern seaboard counterparts.
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Post by Gingernuts on Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:34 pm

Quality joke on cricinfo:

"Q. What's the difference between Shane Watson and 60mph? A. 60mph converts to 100."

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Post by brodlach on Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:47 pm

lol! 

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Post by Scrappy on Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:53 pm

Gingernuts wrote:Quality joke on cricinfo:

"Q. What's the difference between Shane Watson and 60mph? A. 60mph converts to 100."

Laughing 
That is a classic

Laughing 

lol! 

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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:41 pm

We were hoping to put al the ashes discussion in here.

But if a separate thread for the second test is desired so be it.

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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:46 pm

I cannot believe Clarke decided to bat again.
If 400 runs is not enough to force the folow on, then how many do you need?

I reckon Chappelli and Tubbs would have made them bat again.

Now Clarke has put upon himself the decision on how many is enough.

For me they wouldn't want to be batting much the first session tomorrow. By then they should be 600+ ahead.

But an aggressive captain would have backed his bowlers and sent them back in.
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Post by bayman on Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:04 pm

was very warm today, he had to give them a break (remember India ?) i'd suggest he'll bat aggressively for an hour tomorrow to set up a 620 lead or thereabouts & then have 5 & 1/2 sessions at them
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Post by Scrappy on Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:19 am

This is the scoreline stumps day 3
AU 570
EG 172
AU 3/132

A lead of 530 with 2 days remaining
Is Michael Clarke taking the pizz out of his pommie counterparts ?
For starters sides simply don't make 500 to win a match batting last
Australia more or less accumulated the 132 in 234 balls
Not that it will matter , but where was the urgency ?
Clarke 22 in 51 balls
Smith 23* in 54 balls
Was this team play or my protect my average play ?

I say declare NOW
The bowlers are rested
Try and finish them off , and not play a 5th day
What is the point in batting on?
Mental disintegration ?
The longer Australia bats , the better the prospects of a draw

Ronnie Biggs provided the great escape in the 1960s
And he ended up touring Australia from England as well
Lets not give Captain Cooks latest mob , ANY chance to escape
Imagine a bit of rain , maybe an injury to a bowler , a batsman plays a epic innings , aint likely to happen , but if it did ....

Its almo$t as if this whole bit i$ to get this Te$t to 5 day$
$omething need$ to be done to pay the new oval bill$ perhap$
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Post by Scrappy on Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:29 am

Look at this game played in a nearby country that finished yesterday
NZ 9/609 DEC
WI 213
WI 507 [Following on]
NZ 4/79

NZ needed 121
Were cruelly left 43 runs short of winning when it rained and wiped out the game
with ample time remaining

Lets delve a bit further in
NZ faced 30 overs and made 4/79 off 180 balls in the cahse
Ross boom boom Taylor following 217 not out in the first dig ends up with
16 not out off 61 balls

Sure rain cost NZ a certain win
But NZ did have 180 balls to mop it up
Being 4/44 didnt help though

That game only proves what can happen when you get a mile up
Clarke will not want similar in the 2nd ashes test
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Post by bayman on Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:35 am

ended up declaring ''overnight'' can't believe he gave thenm a fraction of a sniff
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Post by Scrappy on Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:41 am

Captain Cook
or
Captain Hook

Cook out caught hooking for 1
EG 1/1
MJ gets another wicket

Great declaration by Clarke !!!!
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Post by Scrappy on Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:02 am

AU 570
EG 172
AU 3/132 DEC
EG 312

An emphatic 218 run victory


ASHES MEDAL VOTES
3 JOHNSON...8/113 for the match and that 7/40 first dig one of the great spells of bowling on a placid pitch
2 HADDIN...118 keepers that make hundreds are match winning efforts , and keeping well
1 CLARKE ...148 would normally be man of the match, made 22 in the 2nd dig

VOTING AFTER 2 TESTS
6 JOHNSON
3 HADDIN
2 WARNER
1 CLARKE...and he has made 2 tons !

GONG MEDAL
3 COOK.........3 +1 just had a rare very very bad game
2 PANESAR....2/198 and 2 runs
1 SWANN ....2/184 and 13 runs

VOTING AFTER 2 TESTS
4 SWANN favorite to win because Panesar will most likely be dropped
3 COOK
2 PANESAR
2 PRIOR
1 ANDERSON

I'm trying hard to get an Australian into the votes , maybe in the 3rd test
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:26 pm

How would the Poms feel. They know what the WACA pitch is like.

And going into the third test with Johnson being man of the match in the previous 2 tests.

I think I read earlier today that one of his bouncers at the WACA a few weeks ago went over the keeper and hit the sight-screen on the second bounce.

The Barmy Army traditionally drink at a pub on the Swan River called the "Lucky Shag". Recond they're going to need all of that in 2 days time.

Going to be interesting.....

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Post by IAmTheWarrior on Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:46 pm

I hear Beefy Botham had a bit of a medical emergency and is recovering in hospital in Adelaide. Hope he recovers quickly- appreciated him as a cricketer and have heard him speak since and think he's a cracking bloke.
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Post by Scrappy on Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:49 pm

I was thinking pre-series  Australia's best chance to win a Test was at the normally bouncy WACA.
Now England might be happy to play on a result pitch being 0-2 down

Surely Panesar will be dropped
Perhaps with some courage they can even leave out Swann
They could play 3 or 4 fast bowlers and Stokes
Fight fire with fire
If they don't win, then at least the English quick's should target the Australian bowlers and bowl eyebrow length at them

They have Finn, Bresnan[if fit] and Tremlett who could be selected
Australia don't need to make any changes

Last time they played in Perth
AU 268
Johnson 62
EG 187
Johnson 6/38
AU 309
Johnson 1
EG 123
Johnson 3/44

That was when Johnson was struggling !
Harris 3/59 + 6/47 excelled as well in that match
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:04 pm

well let's have more of that then I say.
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Post by Gingernuts on Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:00 pm

Rogers & Watto both out early again. Both have been underwhelming this series.

I still think there are a few holes in our batting personally. I would say only Warner, Clarke and Haddin have looked comfortable at the crease. The other 3 batters have been far from convincing.
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Post by Gingernuts on Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:02 pm

Surely we have someone better suited to first drop than Watto also.
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Post by Gingernuts on Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:22 pm

Smith has done okay as well to be honest, solid without being spectacular.
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Post by Gingernuts on Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:08 pm

3/107 at lunch. Probably one wicket too many for my liking.

A question to our more 'experienced' cricket watchers on here - what is a good first innings score on this deck? Still 350-400?
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Post by Lee on Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:43 pm

Depends on how we bowl, GN.
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Post by Gingernuts on Fri Dec 13, 2013 4:07 pm

Yep for sure.

If the bowling attack is on song I would say 250 - 300 is defendable, 350+ for a chance of a decent lead going into the second dig.
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Post by Ben W on Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:03 pm

Some wickets lost a little cheaply yesterday, will be interesting to see how the poms go when the bat today!
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