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Post by bayman on Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:10 pm

Australia 2/141 (54 overs) during the second session, Warner caught bat/pad which is one of those things, then in comes Captain Clarke finally at first drop & FIRST BALL he dances down the pitch, misses it & gets stumped, i just wondered whether he did his homework as that is disgraceful batting
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Post by Lee on Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:40 pm

That's the way he plays, Bayman.

It usually works.
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Post by bayman on Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:30 pm

redandblack wrote:That's the way he plays, Bayman.

It usually works.

not FIRST BALL & surely after what's happened in the lead up to the match why wouldn't you have a look at a few first...................i bet you Watson laughed Wink
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Post by Lee on Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:47 pm

Watson's not fit to be talked about in the same sentence as Clarke, mate. Very Happy

I'm one of the few who said Clarke should stay at 5. Get better batsmen at 1 to 4.
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Post by bayman on Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:52 pm

redandblack wrote:Watson's not fit to be talked about in the same sentence as Clarke, mate. Very Happy

I'm one of the few who said Clarke should stay at 5. Get better batsmen at 1 to 4.

well first time up the order & he failed, it is different when the opposition has been in the field for over a day but about halfway through the second session, nup it was irresponsible to say the least
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Post by Lee on Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:31 pm

4/231 so far.

Smith heading for 50.
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Post by bayman on Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:20 pm

AUSTRALIA 7/266 (100 overs)

SMITH 58

STARC 13

WOULD NEED TO GET TO AT LEAST 400 I WOULD THINK

sorry didn't realise it was capitals, not changing it though Razz
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Post by Scrappy on Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:18 am

7/273 Stumps

Steve Smith 58 not out batting at 5 batted like the guy who used to bat at number 5

Brad Haddin bowled Sharma 21 , was he ready in his batting stance ?
He looked up as Sharma was almost up to the Umpire Rolling Eyes

Shane Watson has had an interesting week
Watto became a Dad last Thursday
WILL he or wont he play the last test ?





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Post by robranisgod on Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:52 am

Scrappy wrote:Brad Haddin bowled Sharma 21 , was he ready in his batting stance ?
He looked up as Sharma was almost up to the Umpire Rolling Eyes

But Scappy, its Haddin's job to be in his batting stance. Law 42.10 states:

"It is unfair for a batsman to waste time. In normal circumstances the striker should always be ready to take strike when the bowler is ready to start his run up."
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Post by Scrappy on Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:59 am

Brad Haddin was looking down at his stance at the crease line
Looked up as Sharma was very deep on on approach
Haddins fault, no doubt
Plenty of batsman have pulled out in that situation, Brad didnt and was dismissed Rolling Eyes

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Post by Lee on Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:06 am

I'm with RIG.

Haddin had options. If he played the ball: Haddin b Sharma 21
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Post by Scrappy on Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:45 am

Stumps day 3
AU 408
Smith 92
Starc 99 Mad

IN 0/283 in 58 overs
Dhawan 185 not out off 168 balls Like a Star @ heaven
Vijay 83 not out

What a debut by Dhawan

The Australian must now be rueing a missed opportunity
Dhawan was out without facing a ball
Mitchell Starc got to his bowling delivery point when the ball slipped from his hand
The ball freakily hit the stumps at the non strikers end
Dhawan was out of his crease by almost a metre
Starc giggled
Clarke motioned jocularly a 3rd umpire camera signal and giggled
And Dhawan by stumps had the last laugh

Question
The Aussies , within a spiritualness of fair play , didnt appeal
But in a country where the opposition has refused to comply with a 3rd umpire , should the Aussies have appealed ?
Anywhere else in the world I would say that the Aussies did the right thing
But in India, I would have been very tempted to appeal
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Post by robranisgod on Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:03 am

Scrappy wrote:Stumps day 3
AU 408
Smith 92
Starc 99 Mad

IN 0/283 in 58 overs
Dhawan 185 not out off 168 balls Like a Star @ heaven
Vijay 83 not out

What a debut by Dhawan

The Australian must now be rueing a missed opportunity
Dhawan was out without facing a ball
Mitchell Starc got to his bowling delivery point when the ball slipped from his hand
The ball freakily hit the stumps at the non strikers end
Dhawan was out of his crease by almost a metre
Starc giggled
Clarke motioned jocularly a 3rd umpire camera signal and giggled
And Dhawan by stumps had the last laugh

Question
The Aussies , within a spiritualness of fair play , didnt appeal
But in a country where the opposition has refused to comply with a 3rd umpire , should the Aussies have appealed ?
Anywhere else in the world I would say that the Aussies did the right thing
But in India, I would have been very tempted to appeal

I haven't got the rule, I think 42.15 in front of me, but the way I have always understood it is that you can't accidentally Mankad someone. I have always thought that the rule says something along the lines that the bowler may deliberately attempt to run out the non striker as long as he breaks the stumps prior to commencing his delivery.

If my understanding is correct Dhawan was not out anyway. Do you have the rule Scrappy?
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Post by Scrappy on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:00 am

No , have not got the rule
One of the commentators said it was a dismissal
No doubt in my mind it was an accident by Starc , but how does one prove it accidental if there is an appeal ?

Accidental run outs happen often enough
What about when the non striker is run out from a bowlers deflected attempt to field the ball

AU 408
IN 499
AU 3/75

Hughes 53 not out
Best things that happened for Hughes was the very early dismissal of Warner , and the injury to Clarke
All of a sudden he was batting 4th ball of the innings
Phil was able to get his eye in against the faster bowlers before his tour nemisis Ashwin came into the attack

Arguably the the best left hand batsman that has played for South Australia was born on this day 136 years ago
He has been acknowledged as being the best left hand batsman to play for Australia before WW2
And he played league footy for Southee's mob !
Clem 'Kruger' Hill born 18/2/1877

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Post by robranisgod on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:07 am

Scrappy wrote:No , have not got the rule
One of the commentators said it was a dismissal
No doubt in my mind it was an accident by Starc , but how does one prove it accidental if there is an appeal ?

Accidental run outs happen often enough
What about when the non striker is run out from a bowlers deflected attempt to field the ball

AU 408
IN 499
AU 3/75

Hughes 53 not out
Best things that happened for Hughes was the very early dismissal of Warner , and the injury to Clarke
All of a sudden he was batting 4th ball of the innings
Phil was able to get his eye in against the new faster bowlers before his tour nemisis Ashwin came into the attack


I've checked. The commentator was wrong.

The law states "The bowler is permitted, before entering his delivery stride, to attempt to run out the non-striker. The ball shall not count in the over.”

At no stage did Starc attempt to run out the batsman, therefore the umpire correctly called dead ball.

Most knowlegable journalists are now saying that in their reports.
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Post by Scrappy on Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:11 am

I think that common sense has prevailed over technicalities with that Starckad


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Post by Scrappy on Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:34 am

AU 408
IN 499
AU 223
IN 4/136

Australia beaten fair and turning square again ...

Well if I Haddin seen it I wouldnt believe it again !
Brad Haddin was out LBW in the first dig , looking up to Sharma as Sharma closed into his delivery stride

Yesterday I turn on the TV , to see a poor TV add about a Soy after taste face
When the cricket coverage comes on I see Brad Haddin with his left hand out halting India and Ashwin
Haddin takes up stance, patting the crease, head down
Ashwin takes several steps , without Haddin looking up
Haddin looks up when Ashwin is almost up to the umpire
Haddin LBW Ashwin

Brad needs to adjust his stance preparations
Its appearing like a bad habit and needs to prepare earlier when facing bowlers

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Post by Lee on Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:31 pm

Australia 2/86.

Warner 0

Hughes 45

Watson and Cowan in.
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go on Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:31 pm

I cannot fathom how you drop a bloke for disciplinary reasons for one test and then bring him back as captain for the next one.

Just doesn't sit right with me.

I think the whole thing has bitten the selectors on the bum.
Sure discipline them if necessary but dropping them, I can't have.

From my perspective Australian Cricket has lost its way.
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Post by howthewestwaswon on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:02 pm

Yep. Too many cooks in the kitchen IMO.
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Post by bayman on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:12 pm

basically no 'ticker' in the team
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Post by Adelaide Hawk on Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:55 pm

Chambo Off To Work We Go wrote:From my perspective Australian Cricket has lost its way.

There is nothing more certain than that. They either need to revert to the old structure of Australian cricket, with far greater emphasis on the Sheffield Shield, or burn it down and start all over again. All they are doing at the moment is meandering towards the horizon with their backsides on fire.

As they say in the classics, you can't employ clowns unless you are creating a circus.
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Post by Adelaide Hawk on Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:09 pm

Siddle made a total of 101 runs in this Test, I wonder how many top order "batsmen" could say that this series?

Well done Nathan Lyon, made the selectors look silly once again with 9 wickets for the match.
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Post by Lee on Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:14 pm

First time ever that the No 9 top scored in both innings.
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Post by bayman on Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:19 pm

redandblack wrote:First time ever that the No 9 top scored in both innings.

yeah i heard that from someone at Kapunda today when he was looking up the scores, i found that truly amazing as i would have wrongly thought it would've happened at sometime.......top order batting shows no application needed for test cricket & is as brittle as they come

i'll bet Mickey Arthur is glad he closed his twitter account down
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