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Post by bayman Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:41 pm

firstly i'm for picking the best available team for every match with the excemption of blooding one player at the opportune moment eg 'dead rubbers'

however can someone explain to me seeing Australia are in this 'Rotation Policy' why would Australia let Phil Hughes & David Hussey (according to the ABC radio coverage today) play in the shield game starting tomorrow ? if they need players 'rested' why would they play ?.....i'm on holidays so i'll be there & i'm very happy that the best available players from both teams can play


professional players should be able to play when fit at all times
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Post by Gingernuts Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:26 pm

I hate the rotation policy. It makes a mockery of the opposition, the game, and the fans.

Every year my love for cricket diminishes further. This season is no exception.
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Post by howthewestwaswon Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:49 pm

Gingernuts wrote:I hate the rotation policy. It makes a mockery of the opposition, the game, and the fans.

Every year my love for cricket diminishes further. This season is no exception.

I agree. Regardless of format, the 11 should be the best 11 cricketers in Australia. None of this specialist rotational BS.
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Post by Booney Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:00 am

Sadly GN, you aint alone.

The emphasis on T20 as "entertainment value", the BBL and all the mindless almost inexcusable rotations are seeing people wander from what was a captivating summer of cricket every year.

Almost endless tours around the world, one-day series, T20 bollocks and 50 odd players being used in the 3 formats makes it almost impossible to keep up with.

Mind you, 10 Tests in 18 weeks against the Ol' Dart will be a must see for all of us.

T20 is here to stay, it will eventually kill off the one-day game and the sport will be poorer because of it.
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Post by Gingernuts Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:28 am

You're correct about The Ashes, they are pretty much the only cricket series that I really enjoy with any sort of passion these days. Unfortunately they don't play them annually though! Laughing

I had the cricket on last night, and after a couple of hours I realised I just didn't give a fig. I used to love one day cricket, but it's just watered down bollocks these days. No way I would pay $30/$40 bucks or whatever it is these days to watch a game live.
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Post by Booney Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:41 am

In many respects I see why T20 has become the new One-dayer.

Since Michael Bevan introduced "slow and steady" from over 20-40, scoring at 3-4 an over keeping wickets in hand, the one-day game had become too clinical and not enough crash-and-bash that we had grown accustomed too early-mid 90s.

Scores of 300+ were a regular event, not any more.

It was $46 for the recent one-day game in Adelaide, I believe.

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Post by Gingernuts Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:47 am

$46 bucks! Sheesh - and they still have the gall to rest players. What a joke.

It's that element of strategy that I used to enjoy in the one day game to be honest Booney. The scores of 300+ were largely due to the once in a generation players like Gilchrist and Hayden. Unfortunately I think that period of sustained success has raised public expectation beyond the reality.

I think the thing that cricket has lost for me is it's meaning. Matches just don't seem to mean anything anymore. I can't really put my finger on why.
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Post by Chambo Off To Work We Go Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:52 am

I wonder how this is really viewed in the wider sporting context.
Would Melbourne FC be in such bother if they argue they had a 'rotation' policy?

How does it sit against the sporting punters? You rotate Clarke (your best player) out of a side, is like taking LeBron James out of Miami.

It is only done because they of the argument of playing too much cricket.
Well, my answer is play less, but improve the quality.

I just can't see how the 3 forms of the game can coincide by picking the best players and not burning them out.

However, for test matches, rotating the bowlers like they have diminshes the game in my view. I didn't consider the amount of overs they bowled was overly excessive, when viewed against previous series.

For mine this rotation policy does nothing for the game. It will bite the selectors on the bum in time.

Selection is a simple concept, made annoyingly complicated by self-justifying selector appointments. For some time they seem to have had to do odd-ball things to justify the position.

Quite simply, pick the best team, take your money and go home. That is sufficient.
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Post by Booney Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:54 am

Too much cricket Chambo, simply too much cricket.
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Post by Gingernuts Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:00 pm

Yep, don't rotate players - cut down on fixtures instead.
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Post by howthewestwaswon Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:14 pm

Gingernuts wrote:Yep, don't rotate players - cut down on fixtures instead.

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Post by testy Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:04 pm


Can you imagine rotating players in the SANFL, giving the next best outside the best 21 players a game just for the sake of it Evil or Very Mad

Lets all wait and see how many cricketers play in the Indian 20/20 coming up in the next few months rather than having a REST. The $$$$ wil change there minds I think.
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Post by Booney Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:15 am

Seems Watson will be prepared to bowl for the IPL team who bids the most for him.....but not for Australia. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Gingernuts Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:59 am

I see in the paper today an article about fans abandoning the 50 over game.

I would suggest it's Cricket Australia that has abandoned it. A combination of meaningless series and second string Australian sides leaves little to encourage the average punter fork out their 46 bucks.
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Post by howthewestwaswon Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:46 am

IMO abandoning the Tri-Series was a big mistake. It's what made us different and unique from the rest of the world. Now we are only ICC and Indian puppets.
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Post by bayman Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:17 am

Gingernuts wrote:I see in the paper today an article about fans abandoning the 50 over game.

I would suggest it's Cricket Australia that has abandoned it. A combination of meaningless series and second string Australian sides leaves little to encourage the average punter fork out their 46 bucks.


ODI's will not get dropped as they are the most watched & most lucrative games of the 3 codes of cricket
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Post by Gingernuts Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:21 am

It needs to be better programmed though.

We don't have a continuous 'summer of cricket' anymore. It's just a progression of short series against various teams, there needs to be more continuity.

The tests should flow into a serious 1 day comp with a couple of T20's sprinkled around for good measure.
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Post by Adelaide Hawk Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:54 pm

The part I don't follow is the players put their hands out for more money because they have to play more cricket, and then miss matches because they need to be rested.

If players need to be rested, cut back on their training schedules.
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Post by Lee Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:16 pm

Remember when cricketers rarely got injured in games?

Then the sports scientists arrived.
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Post by Adelaide Hawk Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:50 pm

CA's "High" Performance Manager Pat Howard needs to re-titled as a "Low" Performance Manager. Amazing how we have a former Rugby player calling all the shots in Australian Cricket at the moment, and all the genuine cricket minds are sitting comfortably in the Channel 9 commentary booth.

Yes, injuries are like helmets, you see batsmen getting belted in the head far more now than they ever did prior to helmets.
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Post by Booney Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:11 am

I cant wait to see Warnies blue print for Cricket in Australia.

Moisturiser and diet will be high on the list.
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Post by Gingernuts Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:18 am

Don't forget the spray tan. Laughing
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Post by bayman Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:49 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:CA's "High" Performance Manager Pat Howard needs to re-titled as a "Low" Performance Manager. Amazing how we have a former Rugby player calling all the shots in Australian Cricket at the moment, and all the genuine cricket minds are sitting comfortably in the Channel 9 commentary booth.

Yes, injuries are like helmets, you see batsmen getting belted in the head far more now than they ever did prior to helmets.

they get hit in the head more times why because of more cricket ? well maybe but i think a lot of it is to do with having confidence in the helmet & not keeping an eye on the ball when they should be
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